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- From: shafey@hammel.qal.berkeley.edu (Omar Shafey)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Terence McKenna Interview
- Date: 10 Oct 1994 00:02:13 GMT
- Message-ID: <37a0a5$fls@agate.berkeley.edu>
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- A good interview with Terence McKenna was published today in the San
- Francisco Chronicle/Examiner Sunday Magazine. The cover title is
- "Apocalypse Soon: Psychedelic Anthropologist Terence McKenna Takes
- on the Brave New World" but the article itself is titled "Millenium
- Witness."
-
- For those who are interested but can't manage to look up a copy, here
- are some of the juicier quotes gleaned from the interview:
-
- "Drugs are about dulling perception, about addiction and about
- behavioral repetition...What *psychedelics* are about is pattern-
- dissolving experiences of an extraordinarily high or different
- awareness. They are the exact opposite of drugs. They promote
- questioning , they promote consciousness, they promote value
- examinations, they promote the reconstruction of behavioral
- patterns"
-
- "The important thing about cannabis is its consciousness-altering
- efffect, and I think the Establishment is perfectly aware that
- that's the issue. They're keeping cannabis illegal because it
- causes people to question the social values that they're being
- programmed with."
-
- "Bill Clinton is an international corporatist, exactly as George
- Bush was an international corporatist. There is only one agenda
- for the American Establishment - that is to dominate the world
- and wring its resources from it in order to create an unconscionable
- amount of wealth for a tiny number of people.That's the game that's
- being played even as the signs accumulate that this will ruin the
- planet. The great struggle that looms ahead ...(unless) we die
- under anesthesia from 700 channels of MTV ... is the struggle
- between capitalism and ecological values: Do we turn everything
- into products? Do we destroy all resource bases in order to deliver
- junk to people who are made unhappy by it? Or do we begin to limit
- consumption, redefine what an upper-class lifestyle really means
- and attempt to get hold of ourselves?"
-
- "Nobody ever went to hell on psychedelics, or very *few* people. (For)
- hardcore dissipation ... you go to Jack Daniels, methedrine, coke,
- junk (heroin), and pills."
-
- "I founded (with my ex-wife in 1985) ... a botanical preservation project
- designed to locate rare, endangered plants with a history of shamanic
- usage and preserve them all in a botanical garden in Hawaii."
-
- Q: Why?
-
- "To cut the costs and research cycle for drug companies. In other words,
- drug companies will not have to mount an Amazon expedition. They can
- simply order 100 kilos of this plant from us for lab analysis."
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-
- There is, of course, much more about cosmic giggles, plant gnosis, and
- the evolution of the human brain and civilization as hinging on the
- effects of psilocybin-containing mushrooms, etc.
-
- Personally, I have mixed feelings about Terence. In many ways I agree
- with his critiques of the economic and political order and I am sympathetic
- to his calls for an "archaic revival." On the other hand, alot of his
- cosmic mushroom theorizing strikes me as the ravings of a guy who is
- tripping hard and trying to convince me that his hallucinations are "real".
-
- Also, I detect a bit of self-contradiction (perhaps hypocrisy?) as
- evidenced in the quotes above. In one, Terence decries the turning of
- everything in the world into marketed products while at the same time
- he is commodifying the most sacred shamanic plants in order to assist
- drug companies in their pursuit of profit. Is't he "selling out" to the
- "Establishment" he so vilifies or is he just being realistic?
-
- Oh, by the way, Terence predicts that the world as we know it will be
- massively transformed in the year 2012. We only have to wait 18 years
- to find out whether he's a visionary or just another crackpot!
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